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what happened to inner_justin?
karyn_nomore
Wondering what happened to inner_justin? Wondering why she kicked off her Queer as Folk friends on Facebook? Aren't seeing entries in her new journal the_fmly_bzns? Wonder no more.

For a while now, Karyn posted personal stories about her best friend Adam, his partner Ikey, and their daughter. Suddenly, Adam dies of AIDS related complications and Ikey, heartbroken, commits suicide. This leaves their daughter all alone and orphaned in the world.

Sound like a Lifetime Movie of the Week? You're right! It is.

With the internet, information isn't always as hidden as you want it to be. In this case, the story seemed too hard to believe. It only became really hard to believe when photographs of the daughter went from adorable to unbelievable. Unfortunately, the journal has been deleted so you just have to take my word on this. Just a few months ago, Liana was just learning how to walk. Recently, photographs of an active toddler were shown, about two to three years old. The photographs were supposed to be just taken and the child that was in her journal was in long sleeved winter wear in the middle of summer? Unlikely.

She had one photograph of a child taken in summer clothing and it was obvious that they were two entirely different children. It can only be surmised that the photographs were taken from various sources and put in her journal to concoct her story.

Exploiting the feelings of others, playing on their sympathies, and duping her friends list, people whom she supposedly trusted, and trusted her, was the only true story there.

Comments of sympathy, understanding, and empathy flooded her entries. She advocated to donate to charities in support of this dearly departed couple. The charities? Always a good cause. The reason behind the push for donations? False.

Adam and Ikey are alive. They're alive, heterosexual, and only friends but haven't seen one another in years. Ikey has a child and is married to a woman. Adam does live in Brooklyn and is a lawyer. Dead? No. Positive? No. Gay? No.

Neither have spoken to Karyn in a long time and now we can all understand why.

"Adam's" LiveJournal has been deleted, posts made from "Adam" to the sunshine_ai community have been deleted, and references to Adam in the Supernatural journal are gone.

She never posted photographs of the couple together in her journal, only separately. Any photographs with her in them with either one of them were old and referenced high school. There were no new photographs of her taken with her "friends".

There was a photograph of Adam and Ikey's gravesite. Through a trace, the graves were found to be located in Charleston, South Carolina. The cemetery hasn't had a burial since the 1960's.

It can only be assumed that someone found out about Karyn's true identity and she made an attempt to erase everything, delete these lies that she told in an effort to create a new identity in the Supernatural fandom. Friends were deleted from her Facebook because that's probably where they traced her imaginary friends. They are real people but not the people that she purported them to be.

Why is this journal here? People deserve to know. She played people. She played on their sympathies, their affections, their feelings, and emotions. It was cruel. People trust. LiveJournal is a place where we should feel free to gather and talk about our lives with people we have things in common with. We share fandoms, we share the experience of fandom, and through that, we share with each other.

We shouldn't have to question what's true and what's false but that's what happened here.

She fooled people and she did it intentionally with no apologies. She just expected it to all go away, deleted forever. She hurt people. She gave a terrible disease to an imaginary person without really experiencing it in her own life. She exploited other people's grief and experiences with that disease. She exploited suicide. She used an imaginary child to gain even more sympathy and attention for herself.

It wasn't right and she should know that.

That´s the second "case" in a month. I had something like that happen lately in my lj as well. Leaves me wondering why people do that.

It's very sad indeed; at first I was angry, but then the more I thought about it I realized that she's obviously mentally ill and needs help! I hope she gets it before she dupes the wrong wrong person in RL and it gets her hurt or worse!

Thanks for making this journal; I think it was needed.

Cindy

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All of the posts where those pictures were posted were friend-locked, so sharing them publicly would be invading the privacy of all the people involved, even though Karyn is the one who exploited it first. If you want proof, you should talk to the people who were on Karyn's friends list and might have saved the pictures and posts, and compare them for yourself. There's no other proof right now, because Karyn deleted it along with her journal. Which, considering she cut off ties with all (or most of) the people who offered her their comfort sympathy and money before, is, in my opinion, a proof in itself.

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If I'm not mistaken this is the Adam she referred to and it turns out he's alive and well.

http://www.nyclitigationlawyers.com/Firm%20Info/Lawyers/35939020.aspx

This is only one of many times that I knew she was crazy. One minute she was disowning fandom and the next minute, she goes straight to the first public appearance he has. Someone asked her not too long ago (after she said she saw/met him 15 times) why would you do that if you feel this way about him?

Subject: Because this is the best way to weed people out.
It's weird when you have so much to say and you aren't sure how to get it all out.

I'm tired of feeling stupid. I'm tired of giving people a million chances to walk all over me. I'm tired of allowing people into my life just so they can never be on my side about anything and use my experiences to make themselves seem like a better person. I'm tired of people in my life only caring about one thing, talking about one thing, and no matter how hard you try to get away from it your sucked in time and time again.

The following things I have to say about Randy and I want everyone to know this has NOTHING to do with the facebook incident. IF he did indeed block certain people, he had a reason and it is for the best. The following things I have to say I have felt for a long time, but because I enjoyed his work so much and yes he is a very passionate actor and I enjoy going to his work, does not mean that he does not have problems or things that irk me. I am the type of person who gets very obsessed and excited about ONE thing for a while and them moves on. And yes this Randy thing was a long time coming with the FANS and people on this fandom before I just threw my hands up, but here is some stuff I feel about him and why in another sense I am moving on.

Feel free to defriend me after this. Do not comment to this and attack me with your feelings about how I AM WRONG. I'm not in the mood and I refuse to get into a pissing contest with anyone. Id rather have you remove me if you dont like what I have to say then get into petty comment wars. I'm over it.

I honestly do not think Randy is that nice of a person. I have been around him many times and some times hes super nice and other times no. I understand he is a human being but me thinking he isnt that nice does not just has to do with how he interacts with his fans. Its how he talks about his fans and experiences I have had around him. I have been on the receiving end of him being down right nasty to me and I have seen him be the same to other people. Human? Yes. But the way he treats some people I don't even allow my own friends to act that way to me on a bad day.

I made light of the comment he made back in Nov. in the Advocate because quite frankly I was just not in the mood to get into it and really care. That was the start of my moving back away from him. I defended him because I felt like I should. But why? Because I am a fan? That was when I started to realize I had become someone I wasnt. Defending someone I was not friends with when in all reality, what he said was horrible and wrong. His comment about over weight middle aged fans was horrible. No one should say that about anyone. I dont care if these "fans" do stalk you and have been a thorn in your side in the past. Be a fucking grown up, and watch your fucking manners. These over weight middle aged fans are the ones who put money in your pocket and fill the seats when you do a play. These fans are the ones who make you still have a name after queer as folk. And this goes for ANYONE on the show. People HATE Hal but he embraces his fans, does web casts once a week where you can get online and ask him questions, ANY question and he answers. He waits for HOURS to talk to every fan after an event, but we hate him because he went on record to say he never wanted to work with Randy and Gale again. *gasp* OH GOD. BURN HIM AT THE STAKE. But its okay for Randy to make horrible comments about his fans though, right?

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Talk about fan entitlement. Just because you donated money to something, it doesn't mean that they're obligated to appease you.

Secondly, tAB. I have donated over 250 dollars to tAB in the past 2 years. You know what I have seen my money go to? One short film. The other projects? Where are they? I went to a film festival IN NEW YORK where thinking...was screening. NO ONE from tAB was there. There was no merchandise, no literature about tAB. Nothing. And Randy, who lives in NY was not even there to promote his own work. And before anyone asks, there was NO PLAY, no nothing going on that day when I went. Bad marketing? Perhaps. Or maybe he felt like this theater that showed the film just wasnt good enough to attend. Whatever the matter may be, I will not donate to tAB anymore. You wanna say I'm over reacting? Fine. But when you make shit money and give it out to something YOU believe in and think you are going to see something or FEEL something from the thing you donate to, and don't, you can come to me.

Third, Randy's acting. And here is where I am going to get the most shit. He has the same voice in every role he does. No matter if its comedy or drama, he used the same voice. He reads the same, same his lines the same in ANY character he has. He has no versatility. Is he good at what he does? Yes. He can do some things very well. But when I see plays he is in, I feel he plays the same thing over and over. Its my opinion. Take it or leave it.

And lastly, how many times can I see the same person, wait for them outside? "You did a good job. Can I get a picture?" No wonder it becomes tedious for him. It's tedious for me. The same thing over and over. The same people over and over. You like plays, fine. Go. Be merry. I like plays too. But I am just not going to waste my time anymore going to ONE persons play and doing this constant same thing year after year after year. Waiting anxiously for him to tell us when he is doing something new. Waiting for the announcement for Stockbridge like people are telling us the day money will fall from the sky. I get people like to do these things. I am not knocking you. I was one of those people. But its just...doing nothing for me anymore. I focused so much on that that I forgot who I was and that I had a life outside of all that.

Randy is just another person. He has flaws and makes mistakes. And you know what? Why follow around and constantly go see someone who is just like me? I would think its weird too if someone was everywhere I was or came to everything I did. And after really thinking about it and putting myself in his shoes, it feels wrong to me now.

I think I admired and loved the Randy that lived in my head. The one I made up. Not this real Randy. Because how could I become so engrossed in someone who is just another human being. I didn't even feel about Randy and obsess over my own husband as I did Randy.


So there it is. You wanna disagree with me? Keep it to yourself. Honestly? I cannot handle it right now. I am venting and I am allowed on my own journal. If me bashing precious Randy is too much for you, please defriend me before I make my own friends cut so I don't have to deal with the drama. Think I am being mean? Again my opinions, my journal.

And again for the record this is NOT me being BUTT HURT about the fucking facebook thing. I DONT CARE ABOUT THAT. This is a LONG time coming and something that has been inside me for a long time, but because I felt like I had to be someone else on the fandom, this is what happens when the pot overflows.

This will be the last I will say about this. After my friends cut it will be RL stuff, SPN and my other loves and tv show and actor squeeing, more love posts for my friends, etc. I am a whole new person now that this toxic shit is out of me.

That is all.

We shall see who sticks around.


"Third, Randy's acting. And here is where I am going to get the most shit. He has the same voice in every role he does. No matter if its comedy or drama, he used the same voice. He reads the same, same his lines the same in ANY character he has. He has no versatility. Is he good at what he does? Yes. He can do some things very well. But when I see plays he is in, I feel he plays the same thing over and over. Its my opinion. Take it or leave it."

I don't know her and never talked to her or even saw randy performing on stage but what she said was both hurtful and incorrect.





What do you think? he can't act???..pffff

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Is there any actual proof to all this other than hearsay? I was her friend for quite some time on LJ, and I never saw any pictures of two different little girls, just one.

Also, did she ever mention Adam's last name? Just because you tracked down a lawyer in Brooklyn named Adam doesn't automatically make everything she said false.

I'm not saying whether or not I believe it was all fabricated, I'm saying I want actual proof. These are some heavy accusations, and it seems fishy to me that there isn't any evidence in this entry, just someone's thoughts...

Also, I am her friend on her other journal, with no problems. Meh.

Also, all this posting anon? In the immortal words of Brian Kinney: Grow some balls.

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Yes, she mentioned Adam's last name and that he's a lawyer in Brooklyn. Lawyers who passed the bar is public info. and he's the only one with that name in Brooklyn. His contact info. is listed in one of the posts above. I'm sure you could email him and he could confirm it for you if you need proof beyond a shadow of a doubt. Or you could contact her "boyfriend" Julian who she also lied about. http://julianmccullough.com/
Better yet, why not ask Karyn yourself? I'd love to hear her response.
As for people who have a problem with anon comments...I think you all are seriously underestimating just how psycho she is. She killed off two people in her delusional fantasy land. Who's to say she wouldn't turn violent in real life if she hasn't already? What she did is not normal by any stretch of the imagination.

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I just found out about all of this - I am hurt and disgusted. But I also feel pity for Karyn; she obviously has a problem. Concocting a story, passing it off as her real life, and exploiting others' sympathies is cruel and heartless.

I can't believe she did all this to us!!!

I seriously don't mind about the whole "she has a real problem, she need help".

She has been a piece of scum to every person who has believed her "my best friend has died of aids", because this is a painful slap on the face to a lot of people who has to fight this desease for real...sorry, but I feel no pity at all for her, I think she has to be sued and she has to pay, just for the "aids thing", not to mention all the other bad things she has done to her "friends":(

Oh, just a little memory: she (and some friends of her) some times ago has said to me to "get a life".

I have a real full life thank you, I don't need to make up it hurting people in the meanwhile. She's nobody in my thoughts.

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Err, has there been actual money involved in this now? Did people really transfer money to her fake charity accounts? And if so -- since someone mentioned that she did respond to a few people, admitting to the whole thing -- did she say anything as to planning on making amends?

I find that the financial aspect (if there is one) kicks this another two notches up. There's lying to garner attention, and then there's fraud. :x

I want proof.

It's as simple as this. If you are going to start accusing someone of something, you'd better have proof. I don't care that it's under a friends lock, I don't care if it was in private journals. As soon as you accuse someone of something you had better have concrete evidence to back it up.

"Oh, my friends posted it under friends lock, I don't want to invade their privacy." Or even better "Two of my friends emailed her and she admitted it..." Fuck. That. Seriously people, this has been spread around, so pictures, screen caps, copies of the emails sent. Stop attacking until you know the whole story.

I don't know if I believe her, and I don't know if I believe this, but until you offer some actual evidence against her, you're just spreading supposed truths, not anything concrete.

There's my two cents.

She deleted her journal. The only proof is from the Facebooks of the people who are still alive. It's an invasion of their privacy, the way that Karyn invaded their privacy by using their identities.

Ask her yourself if you want proof. She's already admitted it.

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Email Adam and ask him. I'm sure he'll confirm it. Contact info. is in one of the above posts. Or you could ask Karyn...if you dare. She might boil your pet bunny alive, but at leaset you'll have confirmation. lol

You think this is funny? I mean seriously. Besides there is no contact info for Adam up there, except for something that possibly leads me to his place of business which is just rude.

I mean certainly, someone somewhere took screencaps of this girls journal?

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First off, I really wish someone would have told me what was going on, since anyone that knows Karyn knows that she and I were extremely close for years. On the other hand, that also is probably why no one contacted me. I just found this now, from a friend who I'll leave anonymous, who knew about it.

All I want to say, because I am still very torn up about this and processing it, is that Karyn has blocked me, too. I confronted her and she isn't speaking to me, replying to emails or texts, etc. And again - I was maybe her closest friend for three years, at least among the closest few.

I'm really upset that I had to find out this way, and I have a lot of things I'm really confused about. I don't know where the truth and the lies meet, or what was lies and what was truth, beyond what has been obviously uncovered here about her friends. I still feel bad for her, simply because we were so close for so long, and I want to believe she's just sick and is embarrassed, and that's why she's not talking to anyone.

I dunno. I guess I just thought people should know from my side, because it should confirm for a lot of you that it's true, if you're doubting. I don't want people to go attack Karyn or anything, I cared too much for her in the past to hate her now, even after this. But I do think people should know the truth, and her new friends should be aware so she can't manipulate them. That's for her good as well as theirs, I think.

I guess I just wanted people to know that I wasn't involved and had no idea. :( I've been on LJ for YEARS, way longer than I've known her, and I plan on sticking around. I don't want people think I was involved in whatever the hell happened. I was just as fooled as you all.

If you're wondering why there isn't more of an uproar, I honestly think it's because no one knows. Very few people know what happened. I mean, *I* didn't find out until a week later. I'm not saying we should start a witch-hunt, though. Chasing her down or something would just be harassment, and certainly wouldn't help a sick or damaged person become better, or change their behavior.

I hope she's getting help. :( I'm just going to have to deal with the repercussions from this. Losing the person I thought was one of my best friends after like 3 years of friendship, finding out it was all lies, and having her not even REPLY to me... is pretty hurtful. It's going to take me a while to deal with it, I guess.

I know I emailed you right after she deleted her journal to make sure everything was ok. I am sorry that you were also mislead. I know that you two were very close. If I am not mistaken you two had plans to spend Halloween together. I am shocked that she could lie to you her longtime friend and writing partner.

I found both of you through your Kondo story. It is still hard to believe the lies lasted so long.

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....Well I asked for proof.

I'm gonna go be sick. Jesus fucking Christ.

The woman seemed mentally ill. That's why I stayed away from her and want to be anon, because who wants this on their doorstep? The big dramas she caused, the stalking of Randy, the over the top fits when people didn't like her fav characters and alternate pairings, constantly trying to make herself the center of attention in a obviously crazy way. The fact that she hasn't hidden who she is and uses other real people who can be tracked down proves all sorts of crazy going on here.

Wow, it makes me very sad to think that someone must be so needy for approval from strangers that they would go to such extreme dishonesty to achieve it.

I appreciate the information, it can't have been easy to write.

I'm more sad than angry. Angry yes, but as a psych major I guess I just understand that there's something deep-seated going on. I know it's not likely to happen without being forced, but I hope she gets the help she needs

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Does anybody know if her cancer is real?

I have been wondering the same thing...

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Is that the same Adam she used to talk with at twitter ?! (I don't think so - am just asking)

I remember her posting her tweets day by day ,, most of them were with a gay guy named Adam.

There's a 50/50 chance that's me... we used to chat a bit through twitter but haven't done so in the past few months.

Really?

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There are people who probably feel sorry for Karyn and think she's a victim.

Don't. And she's not.

She's not mentally ill. This girl knows exactly what she's doing; her lies required deliberation and planning and I refuse to believe that she could not have ceased with the deception. She loves duping people; she loves the control.

Ugly bitch can rot in hell for all I care.

She's not mentally ill. This girl knows exactly what she's doing; her lies required deliberation and planning and I refuse to believe that she could not have ceased with the deception. She loves duping people; she loves the control.

I didn't have personal interaction with her at any point, but based on what I've heard and seen of her (thanks to trustworthy sources), I'm inclined to agree with you.

Then again, the part about the rather random pic selection showing that little girl? That does sound like very bad planning and possible lack of deliberation.

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WOW, I am shocked, I had no idea any of this was going on. It truly makes me sick to think that she used Cancer, AIDS, Suicide, Death, and an orphaned child to evoke sympathy and pity from this community. I work for a hospice and there is NOTHING about death that should be taken lightly. She is obviously an extremely manipulative person but I don't think she is crazy. If she were she would still be living this delusion. As soon as she was caught she deleted all of her information and ignored everyone. Thank you for posting the link Tegan.

You can also bet on 85% of her Randy experiences being incredibly exaggerated if she was by herself at the time. She has claimed to have received email from Randy (specifically concerning Adam) but an email to tAB explaining the situation was all it took to confirm that "No member of the Arts Bureau has had any such contact" followed by a "Sorry."

It's important to remember that she was behind a computer and was thus able to ponder and plan for hours in advance the stories that she was going to tell about what happened when she waited at the stage door. She had no need to be immediately accountable for anything.

A guess is that much of her vehemence toward Randy as quoted in comments above was a ruse to get other fans to dislike him so that she could have him all to herself.

Her insanity is unbelievable, especially when you consider all the posts of the thousand + that were FAKE. How does a person have so much free time?

It's all very sad in the most pathetic way possible. I cannot feel sorry for her no matter how hard I try.

What about her childhood she has written of? Was that fake too? It's like the boy who cried wolf. Now no one can determine fact from fiction.

What about her childhood she has written of? Was that fake too?
I've wondered about that too. That whole story about looking for her biological dad etc...and then all of the correspondence with Scott Lowell regarding being adopted.

What boggles my mind the most is that she used first and last names in her farce. How did she think she wouldn't be found out when using real names? I can't even imagine how freaked out Adam and Ikey were when they found all this out.

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jesus christ. i feel sorry for the people who thought they were her friends.

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